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Episode 211: Short Topics #5

Charlotte Mason developed her educational method upon underlying philosophical principles, but many of those influences popular in her day are unknown to today’s homeschooling teachers. This episode unpacks three prominent figures who were giants in education then, discussed in Miss Mason’s Home Education series, and attempts to distill their contributions, and to compare and contrast them to the ideas Miss Mason rejected or accepted.

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“‘The Mother is qualified, and qualified by the Creator Himself, to become the principal agent in the development of her child…and what is demanded of his is–a thinking love…Maternal love is the first agent in education.’” (1/2)

”What we may call the enthusiasm of childhood, joyous teaching, loving and lovable teachers and happy school hours for the little people, are among the general gains from this source.” (3/55)

“Pestalozzi aimed more at harmoniously developing the faculties than at making use of them for the acquirement of knowledge; he sought to prepare the vase rather than to fill it.” (2/30)

“Worked out, for the most part, [his] educational thought with an immediate view to the children of the poor. Because the children that he had to deal with had a limited vocabulary, and untrained observing powers, Pestalozzi taught them to see and then to say: ‘I see a hole in the carpet. I see a small hole in the carpet. I see a small round hole in the carpet. I see a small round hole with a black edge in the carpet,’ and so on; and such training may be good for such children.” (2/226)

“It is not their perceptive powers we have to train, but the habit of methodical observation and accurate record.” (2/226)

“We reverence Froebel. Many of his great thoughts we share; we cannot say borrow, because some, like the child’s relations to the universe, are at least as old as Plato; others belong to universal practice and experience, and this shows their psychological rightness. Froebel gathered diffused thought and practice into a system, but he did a greater thing than this. He raised an altar to the enthusiasm of childhood upon which the flame has never since gone out. The true Kindergartnerin [that is the teacher of the kindergarten class] is the artist amongst teachers; she is filled with the inspiration of her work, and probably most sincere teachers have caught something from her fervour, some sense of the beauty of childhood, and of the enthralling delight of truly educational work.” (1/185-86)

“Given such a superior being to conduct it, and the Kindergarten is beautiful––’tis like a little heaven below’; but put a commonplace woman in charge of such a school, and the charmingly devised gifts and games and occupations become so many instruments of wooden teaching.” (1/178)

“…during the first six or seven years in which he might have become intimately acquainted with the properties and history of every natural object within his reach, he has obtained, exact ideas, it is true … but this at the expense of much of that real knowledge of the external world which at no time of his life will he be so fitted to acquire.” (1/180)

“…in the home a thousand such opportunities occur; if only in such trifles as the straightening of a tablecloth or of a picture, the hanging of a towel, the packing of a parcel––every thoughtful mother invents a thousand ways of training in her child a just eye and a faithful hand.” (1/180)

“…that some of the principles which should govern Kindergarten training are precisely those in which every thoughtful mother endeavours to bring up her family; while the practices of the Kindergarten, being only ways, amongst others, of carrying out these principles … but may be adopted so far as they fit in conveniently with the mother’s general scheme for the education of her family. (1/181)

“In the first place, we take children seriously as persons like ourselves, only more so.” (3/61)

“The problem is simplified anyway. All our complex notions of intellect, will, feeling and so on, disappear. The soul is thrown open to ideas––a fair field and no favour; and ideas, each of them a living entity, according to the familiar Platonic notion, crowd and jostle one another for admission, and for the best places, and for the most important and valuable coalitions, once they have entered. They lie below the ‘threshold’ watching a chance to slip in. They hurry to join their friends and allies upon admission, they ‘vault’ and they ‘taper,’ they form themselves into powerful ‘apperception masses’ which occupy a more or less permanent place in the soul; and the soul– what does it do? It is not evident otherwise than as it affords a stage for this drama of ideas; and the self, the soul or the person, however we choose to call him, is an effect and not a cause, a result, and not an original fact.” (3/59)

“This idea of all education springing from and resting upon our relation to Almighty God is one which we have ever laboured to enforce. We take a very distinct stand upon this point. We do not merely give a religious education, because that would seem to imply the possibility of some other education, a secular education, for example. But we hold that all education is divine, that every good gift of knowledge and insight comes from above, that the Lord the Holy Spirit is the supreme educator of mankind, and that the culmination of all education (which may, at the same time, be reached by a little child) is that personal knowledge of and intimacy with God in which our being finds its fullest perfection.” (3/95)

“Herbart begins to account for man minus what I have called the person. (Person is used in the common-sense, everyday acceptance of the word.) He allows a soul, but he says, “The soul has no capacity nor faculty whatever either to receive or to produce anything. It has originally neither ideas nor feelings nor desires. It knows nothing of itself and nothing of other things. Further, within it lie no forms of intuition or thought, no laws of willing and acting, nor any sort of predisposition, however remote, to all this.” (3/58-59)

“We see that each advances truth, but that neither expresses the whole truth even so far as to afford a working basis for educators.” (3/62)

Lost World of Genesis I, John Walton

Women of the Word, Jen Wilkin

God of Creation, Jen Wilkin

ADE at Home Conference

Episode 167: Method vs. System

99% Invisible: Froebel’s Gifts

Wisdom of the Hands: peas-work
Froebel’s Peas and Sticks

Parents’ Educational Course Reading List

Episode 204: Short Synopsis 9-12

Episode 202: Short Synopsis 5-8

Episode 210: Short Synopsis 20

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February is the tough month to get through as a homeschooler. To give us all a little boost of enthusiasm, inspiration, and energy, the ladies of A Delectable Education are hosting an online Charlotte Mason conference. Perhaps you have never been able to attend a conference for any of a dozen reasons. Here is your opportunity, especially if you are curious about a Charlotte Mason way of teaching.

February 20, 2021, from 11:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. (EST), we will be presenting many different subjects, including some that are often neglected, followed by an evening 90 minute Q&A session with Liz Cottrill, Emily Kiser, and Nicole Williams from 6:30-8:00 pm (EST). Watch live lessons being demonstrated and listen to talks on schooling and family relationships from our 10 guest speakers, in addition to ourselves. Enjoy the convenience and comfort of staying at home. Registration begins today, January 15. Cost is $50 (if you are a member of our Patreon Community, see your account for a discount code).

Sessions are between 20 and 45 minutes and will be available to you until April 12 so that you may return to some and take in those you could not participate in on the day of the original event.

To find out more, visit summit.adelectableeducation.com.

We hope to enjoy this learning experience with you.

Liz, Emily, and Nicole

Episode 210: Short Synopsis Point 20

Of supreme importance to homeschool and other educators is knowing who Charlotte Mason called “The Supreme Educator of all mankind”–the Holy Spirit. This podcast episode discusses the implications of her capstone point in the synopsis, the role of the Holy Spirit in education.

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Home Education (Volume 1), pp. 142-144
Parents and Children (Volume 2), pp. 22-23
School Education (Volume 3), 95-96, 117-118, 125, 146, 153-155

[20] We allow no separation to grow up between the intellectual and ‘ spiritual ‘ life of children, but teach them that the Divine Spirit has constant access to their spirits, and is their continual Helper in all the interests, duties and joys of life.

“…but the great recognition, [is] that God the Holy Spirit is Himself, personally, the Imparter of knowledge, the Instructor of youth, the Inspirer of genius…” (2/271)

“In the things of science, in the things of art, in the things of practical everyday life, his God doth instruct him and doth teach him, her God doth instruct her and doth teacher her. Let this be the mother’s key to the whole of the education of each boy and each girl; not of her children; the divine Spirit does not work with nouns of multitude, but with each single child. Because He is infinite, the whole world is not too great a school for this indefatigable Teacher, and because He is infinite, He is able to give the whole of his infinite attention for the whole time to each one of his multitudinous pupils. We do not sufficiently rejoice in the wealth that the infinite nature of our God brings to each of us.” (2/273)

“This great recognition resolves that discord in our lives of which most of us are, more or less, aware. … Is it not a fact that the spiritual life is exigeant, demands our sole interest and concentrated energies? Yet the claims of intellect––mind, of the æsthetic sense––taste, press upon us urgently. We must think, we must know, we must rejoice in and create the beautiful. And if all the burning thoughts that stir in the minds of men, all the beautiful conceptions they give birth to, are things apart from God, then we too must have a separate life, a life apart from God, a division of ourselves into secular and religious––discord and unrest. We believe that this is the fertile source of the unfaith of the day, especially in young and ardent minds. The claims of intellect are urgent; the intellectual life is a necessity not to be foregone at any hazard. … But once the intimate relation, the relation of Teacher and taught in all things of the mind and spirit, be fully recognised, our feet are set in a large room; there is space for free development in all directions, and this free and joyous development, whether of intellect or heart, is recognised as a Godward movement. (2/274-75)

“Such a recognition of the work of the Holy Spirit as the Educator of mankind, in things intellectual as well as in things moral and spiritual, gives us … a sense of harmony in our efforts and of acceptance of all that we are.” (2/276)

“This idea of all education springing from and resting upon our relation to Almighty God is one which we have ever laboured to enforce. We take a very distinct stand upon this point. We do not merely give a religious education, because that would seem to imply the possibility of some other education, a secular education, for example. But we hold that all education is divine, that every good gift of knowledge and insight comes from above, that the Lord the Holy Spirit is the supreme educator of mankind, and that the culmination of all education (which may, at the same time, be reached by a little child) is that personal knowledge of and intimacy with God in which our being finds its fullest perfection.” (3/95)

“How to fortify the children against the doubts of which the air is full, is an anxious question. Three courses are open: to teach as we of an older generation have been taught, and to let them bide their time and their chance; to attempt to deal with the doubts and difficulties which have turned up, or are likely to turn up; or, to give children such hold upon vital truth, and at the same time such an outlook upon current thought, that they shall be landed on the safe side of the controversies of their day, open to truth, in however new a light presented, and safeguarded against mortal error.” (2/41)

“The Mind of the Child is ‘Good Ground.’––Their keen sensitiveness to spiritual influences is not due to ignorance on the part of the children. It is we, not they, who are in error. The whole tendency of modern biological thought is to confirm the teaching of the Bible: the ideas which quicken come from above; the mind of the little child is an open field, surely ‘good ground,’ where, morning by morning, the sower goes forth to sow, and the seed is the Word. All our teaching of children should be given reverently, with the humble sense that we are invited in this matter to co-operate with the Holy Spirit; but it should be given dutifully and diligently, with the awful sense that our co-operation would appear to be made a condition of the Divine action; that the Saviour of the world pleads with us to ‘suffer the little children to come unto Me,’ as if we had the power to hinder, as we know that we have.” (2/48)

“The problem before the educator is to give the child control over his own nature … In looking for a solution of this problem, I do not undervalue the Divine grace––far otherwise; but we do not always make enough of the fact that Divine grace is exerted on the lines of enlightened human effort; that the parent, for instance, who takes the trouble to understand what he is about in educating his child, deserves, and assuredly gets, support from above; and that Rebecca, let us say, had no right to bring up her son to be “thou worm, Jacob,” in the trust that Divine grace would, speaking reverently, pull him through. Being a pious man, the son of pious parents, he was pulled through, but his days, he complains at the end, were ‘few and evil.'” (1/104)

Parents’ Educational Course

Mornings in Florence, John Ruskin

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Video Conference Packages

Synopsis Reflection Questions–printable PDF with Reflection Questions to use personally or with a Discussion Group (See

Episode 201: Short Synopsis Points 1-4

Episode 202: Short Synopsis Points 5-8

Episode 204: Short Synopsis Points 9-12

Episode 206: Short Synopsis Points 13-15

Episode 208: Short Synopsis Pointes 16-19

Episode 3: The Role of the Teacher (See particularly the links to The Great Recognition Fresco)

Episode 209: Personal Daily Bible Reading

This Christmas Day episode is a discussion of Bible reading, a subject found in Charlotte Mason’s programs, but was for the child’s personal Bible reading. Emily, Liz, and Nicole discuss why this is an important habit for our children and how we can encourage our children in their own Bible reading.

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“We neglect the knowledge which cannot come without labor; that we forsake the earnest and devout study of the Bible, the one way of approach to the knowledge of God.

“…the Christianity of the Bible offers infinite scope for development in the beauty of holiness and in the knowledge of our illimitable God….Hence, our business is before all things, to make ourselves acquainted with the text…It is better that we should, in the first place, try our own efforts at interpretation;…orderly study with the occasional use of a sound commentary, is to be recommended…The error that underlies these aids to private devotion…is that their tendency is to magnify ourselves and our occasions, while they create little or no desire for the best knowledge. It is probable that even our lame efforts at reading with understanding are more profitable than the best instruction. Wait upon God as the dry earth waits upon water…But as the friend listens to the voice, pours over the written word of his friend, so the lover of God searches the Bible for the fuller knowledge he craves.” (4/1/82-84)

“Knowledge of God is of the firstborn affinities…to be got at most directly through the Bible. The learner knows only by the independent act of knowing which he performs for himself.” (6/254)

“The habit of hearing, and later, of reading the Bible, is one to establish at an early age.” (3/142)

“But while pressing the importance of habits of prayer and devotional reading, it should be remembered that children are little formalists by nature, and that they should not be encouraged in long readings or long prayers with a notion of any merit in such exercises.” (3/143)

“The habit of regularity in children’s devotions is very important.” (3/142)

The Naturalist’s Notebook, Nathaniel Wheelwright and Bernd Heinrich

The Planets, Dava Sobel

ESV Illuminated Scripture Journals

The Golden Key

Episode 207: Moral Development

The Parents’ Educational Course Reading List

Nicole’s Study Guide for the Planets

Book of Weekday Readings 

365-day Bible Reading Plan for Kids! by Kaylene Yoder

Meeting with Jesus: A Daily Bible Reading Plan for Kids by David Murray

Exploring the Bible: A Bible Reading Plan for Kids by David Murray

Episode 208: Short Synopsis Points 16-19

For every homeschool teacher, Charlotte Mason’s wisdom on the child’s personality is invaluable. This next installment of the synopsis, points 16-19, covers these two aspects, aspects the teacher has an obligation to understand and instruct their children in.

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Home Education (Volume 1), Part V, Chapter I

Ourselves (Volume 4), Book I, Chapter VI; Book II, Part II

An Essay Towards a Philosophy of Education (Volume 6), Chapters VIII & IX

[16] There are two guides to moral and intellectual self management to offer to children, which we may call ‘the way of the will’ and ‘the way of the reason.’

[17] The way of the will : Children should be taught, (a) to distinguish between ‘I want’ and ‘I will.’ (b) That the way to will effectively is to tum our thoughts from that which we desire but do not will. (c) That the best way to turn our thoughts is to think of or do some quite different thing, entertaining or interesting. (d) That after a little rest in this way, the will returns to its work with new vigour. (This adjunct of the will is familiar to us as diversion, whose office it is to ease us for a time from will effort, that we may ‘ will ‘ again with added power. The use of suggestion as an aid to the will is to be deprecated, as tending to stultify and stereotype character. It would seem that spontaneity is a condition of development, and that human nature needs the discipline of failure as well as of success.)

[18] The way of reason: We teach children, too, not to ‘lean (too confidently) to their own understanding’; because the function of reason is to give logical demonstration (a) of mathematical truth, (b) of an initial idea, accepted by the will. In the former case, reason is, practically, an infallible guide, but in the latter, it is not always a safe one; for, whether that idea be right or wrong, reason will confirm it by irrefragable proofs.

[19] Therefore, children should be taught, as they become mature enough to understand such teaching, that the chief responsibility which rests on them as persons is the acceptance or rejection of ideas. To help them in this choice we give them principles of conduct, and a wide range of the knowledge fitted to them. These principles should save children from some of the loose thinking and heedless action which cause most of us to live at a lower level than we need.

“…the business of reason is rather to prove for us what we think is right, than to bring us to conclusions which are right in themselves.” (4/64)

“…what the heart loves, the will chooses, and the mind justifies. The mind doesn’t direct the will. The mind is actually captive to what the will wants, and the will itself, in turn, is captive to what the heart wants.” (Dr. Ashley Null)

“Logic gives us the very formula of reason, and that which is logically proved is not necessarily right.” (6/144)

“It is madness to let children face a debatable world with only, say, a mathematical preparation. If our business were to train their power of reasoning, such a training would no doubt be of service; but the power is there already, and only wants material to work upon.” (6/147)

“Every mother knows how intensely reasonable a child is and how difficult it is to answer his quite logical and foolishly wrong conclusions. So we need not be deterred from dealing with serious matters with these young neophytes, but only as the occasion occurs; we may not run the risk of boring them with the great questions of life while it is our business to send them forth assured.” (6/150-151)

“Children should know that such things are before them also; that whenever they want to do wrong capital reasons for doing the wrong thing will occur to them. But, happily, when they want to do right no less cogent reasons for right doing will appear.” (6/142)

Parents’ Educational Course

You Are What You Love, James K. A. Smith

Video Conference Packages

Synopsis Reflection Questions–printable PDF with Reflection Questions to use personally or with a Discussion Group

Episode 201: Short Synopsis Points 1-4

Episode 202: Short Synopsis Points 5-8

Episode 204: Short Synopsis Points 9-12

Episode 206: Short Synopsis Points 13-15

Episode 30: The Way of the Will and the Way of Reason